aloha, mate!

home again

2009-05-21T09:19:00.004+01:00

hi everyone,

in case you aren't aware, i am officially back in hawaii. i just started putting together a video that will summarize all the fun and exciting adventures of the semester, hopefully that won't take me too long to finish, but no promises!

it feels really nice to be home again in hawaii, but i really miss all the good friends i made while away in england. come visit me in hawaii everyone!

i am on currently on maui, should be going to oahu within the next week or so to start working for the summer and after that comes graduate school at the University of Hawaii.

i'll leave you with a couple pictures from my last night in york and the bible college's graduation ceremony [which explains why i am dressed differently than normal].

that's all for now.

-seth

bridges of england: photo collection

2009-05-12T12:37:00.004+01:00

i got back from london at about 1am and took my first final this morning. i just uploaded all my pictures from london but haven't had the time to really sort through them and decide what to post and write about from my time there.

instead, i realized that i had collected a decent amount of pictures of really exciting bridges from around england, and decided i will make a post for the structural engineer and architect in us all!

so here we go!

Bridge over the Serpentine in Hyde Park, London:

Millennium Bridge, London (over the Thames River, connects to Tate Modern):

Millennium Bridge, York:

Whitby Harbor Pier (not exactly a bridge but still exciting):

Bridge at Aysgarth Falls, Yorkshire Dales:

Tower Bridge, London:

London update coming soon!

catchin' the train

2009-05-08T12:07:00.002+01:00

i am leaving around 4am for a weekend in london!

lots of pictures and adventures to come im sure.

me and a friend called macy are catching the early train and will spend saturday, sunday, and monday wandering around the city.

apparently we are staying at a friends' parents' house but we have no idea where that is...

should be lots of fun!!

whitby and robin hood's bay

2009-05-02T07:50:00.006+01:00

i just realized i haven't been on here to update in awhile. i've been so busy trying to catch up on my papers that i really haven't had anything exciting to say.

yesterday the bible college took the day off to drive out to the north-east coast of england, to a place called robin hood's bay. from the bay we went on a 7-mile walk to the harbor town of whitby, with sea cliffs on our right and sheep fields on the left. this took a few hours and then we cruised around whitby, got some coffee, and went to a place called magpie cafe for supposedly some of the best fish and chips around. they were still just fish and chips. :)

i loved whitby, probably one of the prettiest places i have ever seen. i don't think i could live very long in an inland place like york, i love the ocean too much.

heres some fun pictures from my exploring:

(more to come after my coffee shop shift)

manchester

2009-04-18T07:15:00.005+01:00

im in manchester, riding bikes all weekend! yesterday was a big alley cat race, where you basically get a list of checkpoints you need to ride to and get your paper signed then you ride to the next checkpoint. this morning im hanging out at calvary chapel stockport and going to a men's breakfast thing and then riding back over to the bike activities around noon. yesterday i managed to plow down a girl on her bike [who was not involved in the race] because she has at an intersection waiting to cross, looked at me coming down the street towards her, and then continued to roll right out in the middle of the street. then she just froze like a deer in the headlights and we got all tangled up. somehow her pedal ended up wedged in my spokes so now my front wheel is all tweaked and i need to get it trued before i keep riding all day...

my new shirt!

2009-04-08T17:46:00.000+01:00

get it?
haha.
ok off to the coffee shop for my shift.
have a nice day :)

cycle the solar system!!

2009-04-08T17:08:00.007+01:00

at church on sunday night i was talking to a guy i happened to sit next to and he told me about this bike trail i needed to check out. yesterday i finally made enough time [and the weather was warm and sunny] to explore the trail. its basically a 6-7 mile trail [10km], along which all the planets of the solar system and located, spaced and sized proportionally to the sun that is located at the beginning of the trail. i rode from the bible college to the sun, all the way out to pluto and back to the sun and finally home for a total of about 15 miles. what a fun day! here's the pictures of my adventures in outer space:

the sun:

mercury:
venus:
earth and the moon:
mars:
jupiter:
saturn:
uranus:
neptune:
and finally pluto:

farndale day trip!

2009-04-03T17:31:00.003+01:00

the entire bible college took the day off from classes yesterday and took a coach to farndale to hike around the valley and play in the daffodils. it was beautiful, warm [for england] day. heres some pictures from our hiking adventure. me, rob, macy, and kyle conquered the valley.

i also found a field of sheep and started running around chasing the sheep and got yelled at and rebuked by a whole group of old english people. i could only tell them that we dont have sheep where i come from. they werent too happy with my excitement over the sheep though. :)

finland video post

2009-03-29T16:28:00.002+01:00

not too sure i'm totally happy with how this turned out, but atleast everyone can get a taste of what finland was like! i should have more video to post later when i feel more creative and get more footage from the others...

i think if you actually go to http://vimeo.com/3906162 you will get better playback quality.

Fun in Finland from Seth Goodnight on Vimeo.

update

2009-03-27T09:58:00.003Z

i added some brief captions to the photos below. check it out!
more to come this weekend i'm sure!

a little article about us on a swedish website

2009-03-25T16:30:00.001Z

http://mickelsson.net/era/?lang=&show=7789&p=Nyheter

more of our finland adventures

2009-03-22T15:56:00.007Z

welcome to finland! we are leaving for our 2 hour drive back to tampere airport and then flying back to england. here's a short photo journal of the trip, i may or may not add more pictures later if i come across some good pictures. i'm definitely sad to leave, it has been an awesome week and i got to make a lot of new cool friends! got to go for now, photo captions to come soon, so keep checking backkk.

**updated below**

here is a picture of me on our first day in finland, outside the big lutheran cathedral. it was snowy and COLD!

this is the big lutheran cathedal in turku. the cathedral was originally catholic but was changed over to a lutheran church as that became the dominant denomination of the country. i believe this church was constructed in the 12th century.
here's our team and some people from calvary chapel turku hanging out inside the cathedral. the church did not meet in the cathedral, they were renting a classroom to use for service several miles away.
this is the door to the apartment the guys were staying in. and there's an introduction to some finnish and swedish phrases, requesting no flyers be dropped in the door slot. :)
our crew hanging out in kyle's [the church's intern] bedroom.
the view outside kyle's window of the nice blue skies over turku.
this is the harbor in helsinki, the ocean you are looking at is a part of the baltic sea. apparently the water is very polluted and it's not a very good idea to eat too much fish out of this sea.
this is a frozen lake we walked across in helsinki. pretty exciting walking across a big frozen body of water in the middle of spring!
sunset over the baltic sea. we hung out for a day at this guy's house outside the city, made a campfire, grilled some finnish sausage, and enjoyed our first finnish sauna cultural experience! look up finnish sauna on wikipedia if you want to know what im talking about. :)
this is a finnish specialty pastry. i can't remember what it is called off the top of my head, but it kinda tasted like a cinnamon roll.
cafe art. REALLY good espresso and cakes. REALLY expensive. i think i spent about 7 euros on both those items. [about $10!!]
that's all for now, i should have a little video slideshow put together in the next few days with a lot more excitement and adventure from our trip!

a few pictures of finland so far...

2009-03-21T05:44:00.001Z

friday in finland

2009-03-20T05:03:00.003Z

good morning or goodnight everyone!

its friday morning in finland right now. i havent had much access to internet [or time to access internet for that matter] so i have been sorta out of touch with the rest of the world.

anyways, finland has been a huge blessing, i'm not ready to leave!! been having a lot of fun serving here and getting to know the church body. today we are having an outreach at the swedish-speaking university and have a few other things planned still before we leave on sunday night.

i had the privilege [and challenge!] of speaking at the wednesday night bible study here in turku, if you are interested log on to the itunes store and search for calvary chapel finland - wednesday night. my message is in their podcasts, titled ephesians 6:10-24. i'm embarrased to have a whole bunch of people listen to me talk on the internet, but maybe God can bless you with it :)

anyways, time to make a pot of finnish-specialty coffee and get ready for the day.

-seth

ps. when i have some free time and energy i will have tons and tons of pictures to share hopefully.

finland

2009-03-16T00:58:00.002Z

im in finland right now! its 3am so im going to sleep. GOODNIGHT!

and we're off

2009-03-15T13:33:00.002Z

im on a train right now on our way to stansted airport. we will be flying out of stansted into turku finland later on this afternoon. i hope everyone is sleeping good!

i have a feeling this will be an exciting trip, already we walked on to the train and there were absolutely no seats left so we were stuck standing in the middle of the aisle with bags stacked all around, our butts right in the faces of everyone sitting down. i started cracking up because i knew our train ride was going to take about 3 hours, just imagine standing up in the middle of an aisle with people's faces 4 inches from you for three hours straight. hahaha we finally got some seats though after a few people climbed off after we made the first stop. :)

finland outreach team

2009-03-14T10:07:00.001Z

[left to right: matt, lindsay, ali, kyle, elle, me]

keep us in your prayers, we leave tomorrow! im about to start my coffee shop shift, maybe i will add more to this later.

genetics

2009-03-09T10:02:00.005Z

if any of you have been wondering why i am so good looking, why i always have really nice hair-dos, and can grow some amazing facial hair, i am here to relieve you of the mystery:

love you mom and dad!!

HAHAHA!

the chariot part 2

2009-03-07T22:57:00.001Z

the chariot from Seth Goodnight on Vimeo.

the chariot

2009-03-05T00:14:00.004Z

tonight we wandered out to Leeds to the see The Chariot play a show. see below for a photo documentary of the night, which included an attempted shopping trip [all the stores were closed], a trip to posh-McDonalds, and dancing around with some sweaty, stinky guys. i have a video which will be uploaded sometime soon but i really need to get to bed. :)

[my skin is getting really white]

shoyu chicken

2009-03-02T18:25:00.005Z

today i ventured to make shoyu chicken. without a rice cooker, and with ingredients that had the same name [but may be totally different things here]. my rice turned out great, and the soy sauce i bought turned out to be really sweet and different from typical soy sauce...

when i was finally done i thought i had done a pretty decent job considering the circumstances :)

video update

2009-03-01T18:05:00.006Z

**edit**
video is up, for some reason the audio doesnt match up very well now that it is uploaded, i will work on getting a better quality video put together when i find time. still need to figure out what is best compatible with vimeo! enjoy...
**edit**

happy march! i will post the video as soon as it finishes uploading on vimeo...
might be a couple hours cuz i am leaving for church soon.

york fixed rough edit from Seth Goodnight on Vimeo.

the song is fake plastic trees by radiohead, i figured it would be appropriate since i'm in england after all.

back in business

2009-02-28T23:56:00.005Z

too lazy to edit video tonight, so heres a little clip from today, probably a little rough...
and for some reason when i uploaded it, the quality got ruined!

thursday night

2009-02-26T21:49:00.003Z

the coolest shirt i have seen in a while.

tonight i went to a meeting at a family's home to plan and pray for an upcoming easter outreach for the kids of York. a few of us from the bible college will be helping with dramas, arts/crafts, and general organizing for a "holiday club" themed around easter on April 6th and 7th. it will be a fun way to reach out to the local community and share the gospel with the kids [and, in turn, their families] in an area where the gospel message is surprisingly not very common knowledge.

tomorrow is friday, one last class for the week, and i will be taking my wheel in to the bike shop nearby to rebuild it with my new hub. hopefully that means lots of riding this weekend, the weather has been beautiful [but still VERY COLD] the whole time my bike has been out of service, hopefully it stays sunny!

i bought some chicken thighs, shoyu, sugar, and rice [that hopefully cooks alright without a rice cooker] and im ready to make a local style feast this weekend. [yogurts, pb&j, and eggs only taste good the first 14 days in a row and then start to get horribly boring] :)

have a wonderful aloha friday!

bike bits

2009-02-25T14:07:00.003Z

i managed to strip the lockring threads on my bike's rear wheel, so i had to order a new hub. just got it in the mail and it's so nice and smooth [and well-sealed], i think i will break down the wheel at the end of the semester and bring home the hub for my bike in hawaii. these hubs are made in wales, so it will be a nice UK souvenir. :)

day at the park

2009-02-23T16:53:00.004Z

yesterday after church everyone walked down to the park to hang out, play some games, and freeze to death.

i didn't have my camera but i stole a photo from a friend on facebook :)
left to right: james [with no head], me, kyle, lindsay, kimberly, emily, michaela, justin's back. there were a bunch of people there but most of them didn't make the photo cut.

my highly anticipated album release of 2009

2009-02-23T16:20:00.001Z

i cant wait for this cd to come out, take a listen! the last 2 minutes of the song are the best :)

new look!

2009-02-23T16:07:00.005Z

i decided to have a little fun today with the appearance of the blog, so here you go!

and heres a picture of me sitting here drinking a nice warm americano and listening to chuck smith.[i had to listen to pastor chuck for about 8 hours in the last 2 days since i put it off all week haha]

skype

2009-02-20T15:29:00.003Z

for some strange reason the only thing that will run on the wireless internet at our flats right now is skype. i cant check email, ichat, or load any webpage, but skype works fine. i have no idea if this is normal or why this works, but if you wish to talk to me online, use skype because i cant get on anything else.

my skype name: seth.goodnight

also, i figured out the phone number to my flat, it is 01904 675428.

i have no idea how to call internationally, but if you would like to talk to me feel free to figure it out and give me a call!

grizzly adams 8D

2009-02-18T23:42:00.004Z

three weeks and still no sign of a mustache!

outreach to finland

2009-02-18T12:34:00.002Z

yesterday morning we signed up for our outreach/mission trips to various parts of england and europe. due to the remaining options [or lack of options] when i went to sign up for the trips i felt this was the outreach which God has called me to be apart of. i honestly had no idea what or where finland was at the time of signing up so i had to do some research. when the options for outreaches were presented to us i was hoping the tasks associated with one of the locations would stand out to me and i would be able to make the choice based on what we would be doing rather than based on location, so i would know i wasn't making a selfish decision on where to go... of course all the options basically involved to the same type of ministry and work so it made the decision nearly impossible. anyways, i am signed up for finland and it sounds like its going to be an awesome place to visit. be praying that God prepares the hearts of our team and the hearts of the people in finland for whatever He has in store. of course the one person whose personality i totally clash with ended up on my team, i guess God has something to teach me through this after all :).

i think we will be in finland for about a week, serving the local church and community there through street evangelism [my greatest challenge], community service, and helping in the church and local schools.

here is finland on a map, the city we will be staying in is Turku, it is on the southern end of the country near the coast. Finland is the dark orange country on the map, in northern Europe and bordering Russia, this will probably be the farthest north i will ever get on the planet. it is currently -4ºC [24ºF] in Turku, so i plan on freezing when i am there.

english breakfast

2009-02-18T12:19:00.006Z

on monday morning we headed over to the york auction house (where they auction off livestock to farmers) to eat a traditional english breakfast. it is definitely nothing like breakfast in hawaii.

one egg, a sausage, bacon, a hashbrown, beans, tomatoes [which was essentially a pile of tomato sauce, i wasn't really sure what to do with this], mushrooms [which magically did not end up on my plate and therefore spared me the embarrassment of shoveling a whole pile of mushrooms off to the side], and black pudding [that is the black circular slice of sausage in the top left that is essentially a slice of congealed animal blood]

YUM!

after we finished eating breakfast we walked by the building they keep all the pigs in and saw them squealing and screaming as they were herded into the back of a truck to be shipped off somewhere. this almost made me become a vegetarian :)

fountains abbey

2009-02-15T22:19:00.002Z

aloha friday

2009-02-13T16:38:00.005Z

good afternoon everyone!

its been a busy week so i haven't been able to get on the internet very often.
the internet in the flats still isn't up and running and the internet in the coffee shop is so overloaded by students that it cuts out every 5 minutes.

anyways, a quick update on the events of the week if i can remember what happened...

-on monday evening myself and justin caught the train to manchester and picked up our new track bikes that we bought off ebay. here's my new ride next to the york city wall. i had to invest in some serious mud fenders because the streets here never seem to dry off. the first ride i went on left stripes on the whole front and back of my body.

-my new notebook for class. i'm still trying to figure out where they came up with that name cuz i can't find a hole anywhere.

-been hanging out with this local guy called rob (trying to practice my english phrases haha) and we took his puppy to the fields next to the horse race track. there were frozen puddles all over the field, it was hilarious watching the dog slide across the ice as she chased her ball:

then me, rob, and justin went to ride bikes around york and stumbled on a park with a little zip-line swing. look at rob's face hahaha
grocery shopping!! england has an endless variety of yogurt.
hopefully i will have lots of exciting stuff to post after this weekend!

i just bought a bike on ebay.

2009-02-08T20:08:00.003Z

lets go ride!!!

night out on the town

2009-02-07T10:16:00.004Z

cheers!!

fish n chips

2009-02-06T19:25:00.007Z

me and justin made a journey out to get some fish n chips this afternoon. we ended up stumbling on a place called mr. chippy. we entered with smiles and left with stomach cramps. i wouldn't really recommend fish n chips.

the cute little ketchup packets you see below cost 25p each, thats about 40¢ each.
i've realized that people in england love salt and vinegar. they load this stuff on their fish n chips and most of the potato chips around here are salt and vinegar flavor.the aftermath:

thursday

2009-02-05T13:32:00.005Z

nothing much to say today. woke up for devotions, went shopping for a few random school supplies and LOTION. my hands and face are already starting to dry out bad and i now look like i have a rash on the tops of my hands. this is probably my favorite thing about being in any place other than hawaii for an extended period of time :). today was the 2nd day of intro to hebrew language class and i am pretty lost. i am not used to classes where i actually need to sit down and memorize information.

it has been snowing off and on again today, its kinda fun!

i need to find a bike to ride around, hopefully something works out.

i think i will attempt to put together a video tour of my flat and post that on here. maybe that will be my goal for tomorrow.

$2.99

2009-02-04T12:52:00.003Z

i just had to spend $2.99 to download the latest office episode because both hulu.com and nbc.com do not allow videos to be played outside of the US :)

i had I&II Samuel class this morning, i am excited for that class, already sounds like it is going to be very interesting! the only problem: two 10-12 page term papers. that is definitely bad news for me.

this afternoon i have apologetics class, i will update on how that is, but sounds like it will be very interesting as well.

its so funny to hear the different phrases and expression people use here and how we get so accustomed to saying certain things that don't necessarily make sense but have become such a common expression that the original meaning essentially disappears... around here people always ask "are you alright?" in place of such phrases as "hows it going?". the first few times i heard this i kinda just stared at them and smiled. i couldn't figure out what i was doing that made them wonder if i was not feeling good or lost or something hahah.

alright my computer is about to die so i will sign off now.

good morning everyone.

updated entry

2009-02-04T12:51:00.002Z

scroll back down to the entry entitled "sunny day". i finally found some time [and internet connection] to add some captions to the photos that probably made absolutely no sense before.

contacting me, part 2

2009-02-03T15:25:00.002Z

here's an update.

email: sethgoodnight[at]gmail[dot]com

AIM: sethgrom

skype: seth.goodnight

the old fashioned way:

Seth Goodnight
10 Barbican Road
York
YO10 5AA
England

if you miraculously decide to send me a package, make sure you fill out the customs declaration form and mark down that it is a gift so that no customs charges have to be made.

M-I-A

2009-02-03T14:52:00.006Z

missing in action.
sorry to everyone who has been waiting to hear from me. the wireless internet router at the college has been down for about 2 days straight already, i guess they just found out today that they blew the router and need to replace it, hopefully that will be done ASAP because the time difference alone makes it hard to keep in touch with anyone. i was able to track down a borders nearby that has wireless internet access so i will take advantage of this for a little while to update everyone on the last couple days. this will basically end up as a random list of jumbled information as i am rushing to type everything that comes to mind.

it snowed off and on for about 2 days here, it was so colddd! today is sunny and pretty much all the snow is gone now. heres some pictures of the exciting weather and a short video also. i have been pretty busy so i haven't been able to get too much pictures and stuff but heres what i got :)

some other notes...
coffee at the church's coffee shop is amazing, met lots of cool people.
yorkshire tea is also great.
today was the first day of classes, definitely a complete change from engineering... should be an exciting semester!
i went grocery shopping last night, thats definitely an interesting experience. i never realized how difficult it would be to shop in a different place where there are no familiar brand names and its almost impossible to tell if what you are buying is cheap or ridiculously expensive. at the grocery store here you bag your own grocery as the clerk slides it down the counter and then when everything is complete you proceed to pay for your purchases. that is definitely a humbling experience. try counting out 70-something cents when you can't tell a 1 pound coin from a 5p coin... i think i found out how to pay for things here, carry around large bills so you never have to worry about counting out coins, i think i am going to collect alot of coins by the end of this trip :)

our flats are pretty nice, my room is definitely a little cramped, i will be rooming with 2 guys from california, justin and brandon, both of them are about 18 or 19 years old. i think we all have alot in common so it should be fun. our flat has about 12 or 13 guys in total, its a 3 story building. our kitchen is kinda a disaster, it will be interesting trying to not starve here. i cooked some eggs for breakfast and the pan we have is so old and destroyed that i think half of my eggs ended up burning to the pan before the rest was cooked enough to eat, that and the fact that i have no idea what to buy because nothing looks like it does in the US.

i haven't had much of a problem staying warm here, as long as i am bundled up in my big coat with a hoodie underneath and jeans and shoes on i think i can survive...

the classes i will be taking are intro to biblical hebrew, 1,2,3 john, 1&2 samuel, and apologetics. in addition to those classes we daily morning devotions and worship, 4 hours a week of work depending on what job we get assigned to, and weekly men's discipleship group. i think i covered everything in that list...

for my 4 hours of work a week (labeled M199), i signed up for coffee shop as my 1st choice and maintenance as my 2nd choice, so we will see where I end up getting assigned to.

theres a slight possibility that an optional trip to israel might be in the works sometime during the semester, totally excited if that works out!! i guess its about a 4hr flight from here to there and im sure it would be an awesome experience!

hmm i think that about covers everything i can think of right now. hopefully internet is back up in the flats within the next day so i can uphold slightly higher levels of communication with the rest of the world. my roommate justin got here in the middle of the internet outage and still hadnt told his parents he arrived safely until today (about 2 days after he got here) hahaha i bet they were stoked to here he is still alive :)

-seth

sunny day!

2009-01-31T12:24:00.006Z

i have finally found time to add some captions to these photos, so read back through and it will all start to make a little more sense :)

the first picture doesn't really have any significance...
this is walmgate bar, one of the entrances to the walled city of york. calvary chapel actually owns [or maybe leases] this space and it currently houses their coffee shop and a study room upstairs. i actually think i already mentioned that before, but heres some more pictures of it:
the door to the coffee shop. makes you feel like you are going to hang out with king arthur or something:
here is the interior of the coffee shop, the wood latticed structure along the back wall is acually the gate that used to raise and lower to close the entrance through the barbican:
a nice warm double macchiato, they have really good coffee here:
the view of our flats from the wall of the city. the flats are located just outside the wall. the entrance to my flat [#10] is the red door right in the center of the photo [just to the right of the little silver car]:
and here's that door up close:
and here's me on my way to the grocery store trying to stay warm:

welcome to england

2009-01-30T16:38:00.007Z

note: click on images for [very] high resolution images which you can save to your computer if you want.

the train from manchester airport to york, cost about £26 and took a little under two hours:
some sights i saw along the way:now i'm official. i just need to figure out what value all the coins are. i also realized very quick that you collect ALOT of coins in england very quickly, i think i am going to need to carry around a little bag to keep all the coins in because my pockets are filling too fast.

ate a sandwich for lunch, very cheap and very filled with mayo.

this is walmgate bar, one of the entrances to the walled city of york. the little white building houses a coffee shop on the bottom [which is run by the bible college] and a small library upstairs.time for me to take a nap, i will update more later. goodnight.

contacting me

2009-01-26T06:57:00.004Z

i will no longer have a cell phone starting january 29/30ish so please contact me via email or instant messaging.

email: sethgoodnight[at]gmail[dot]com

AIM: sethgrom

skype: [i still need to figure this one out...]

i also should have a land phone line to make and receive calls, just not sure how that will work yet.

FYI, York is 10 hours ahead of hawaiian standard time, so if you don't get in touch with me before noon, i will probably be sleeping. :)

3 days and counting...

2009-01-26T06:46:00.005Z

i've got myself a plane ticket, a passport, new shoes, and a winter coat. i think i'm just about ready to head out!! the final purchase i want to make is one of these:
they are on sale at topman.com, so hopefully they still exist by the time i get to england. i think all the winter clothing will be out of season by the time i get there and i will just have to freeze.

thanks to american apparel for hooking me up with one of these :)

welcome

2009-01-24T21:53:00.000Z

welcome to my new blog.

this is where i will [hopefully] keep everyone updated on my adventures over the next few months. in case you haven't been kept up to speed, i graduated from the university of hawaii in december with my bachelor's degree in civil engineering. i will be spending this semester at the calvary chapel bible college in york, england. i am leaving maui on wednesday, january 28th, for york. 5 days and counting...